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91ƵBaroness von Sketch91Ƶ alums explore 91Ƶthe gift of menopause91Ƶ in new CBC comedy

91ƵSmall Achievable Goals91Ƶ embraces fact of life creators say is not talked about enough
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Jennifer Whalen, left, and Meredith MacNeill, of CBC91Ƶs 91ƵSmall Achievable Goals,91Ƶ pose in this recent handout photo. THE CANADIAN PRESS/HO - CBC, Matt Barnes

Jennifer Whalen wasn91Ƶt quite prepared for the intensity of menopause.

91ƵYou hear about hot flashes, but then you actually experience it and you91Ƶre like, oh, my body is on fire,91Ƶ said the 54-year-old actor, who started experiencing symptoms during the pandemic.

91ƵIt starts in your chest and you actually feel like you might spontaneously combust. It should be called inferno flashes.91Ƶ

But what surprised her the most was how scarce information was about the bodily transition, which occurs when the ovaries stop producing eggs and estrogen and progesterone levels decline.

91ƵI was just shocked by how little I knew about it,91Ƶ she shared during an interview at CBC headquarters.

91ƵEverything I learned about menopause was so relentlessly negative and depressing and there was such a lack of research, lack of medical training on it.91Ƶ

Still, Whalen couldn91Ƶt help but see the comedic gold in her situation. So she called up her friend and fellow 91ƵBaroness von Sketch Show91Ƶ alum Meredith MacNeill with an idea for 91Ƶa menopause office comedy.91Ƶ

91ƵI just thought, what if we could make a really joyful comedy about something that people perceived to be negative?91Ƶ

They co-created 91ƵSmall Achievable Goals,91Ƶ premiering Tuesday on CBC, which follows two polar-opposite women thrown together by work and their shared hormonal journey. Whalen stars as Julie, a seasoned 50-year-old podcast producer whose career ambitions get derailed by those 91Ƶinferno flashes91Ƶ and menopause-fuelled bursts of rage. MacNeill plays Kris, a free-spirited 40-something beauty influencer who lands a podcast deal 91Ƶ only to be blindsided by an alarmingly heavy period on her first day.

91ƵWe fought hard to put period blood in the show,91Ƶ said MacNeill, who, like her character, has been experiencing perimenopause in real life.

Though the blood was fake, MacNeill recalled feeling 91Ƶinternal shame91Ƶ when filming scenes where her pad and clothes were meant to look soaked.

While 91ƵSmall Achievable Goals91Ƶ finds humour in menopause, it also confronts the stigma surrounding it in the workplace.

91ƵA lot of women are let go because of menopause,91Ƶ said MacNeill, who91Ƶs 47. 91ƵThere91Ƶs studies done that show women start to actually leave their jobs as well because there91Ƶs so much shame and they don91Ƶt want to talk about it. They can91Ƶt deal with it. And there91Ƶs not really a lot of help out there for them.91Ƶ

A University of British Columbia study conducted last year surveyed more than 1,500 women in the province and found that one-third reported menopause symptoms impacting their jobs.

MacNeill felt ill-equipped for menopause, having grown up in a family where it was never openly discussed.

91ƵMy mom didn91Ƶt talk about it. I think that this stage of life as a woman is not celebrated. You91Ƶre told to experience it with great shame,91Ƶ she said.

MacNeill said the lack of information on menopause leaves many women struggling to identify its symptoms. When she began experiencing crippling anxiety during perimenopause, discovering the cause brought her a sense of relief.

91ƵWith anxiety, you tend to attach it to self-worth or your job or a relationship. The gift of menopause is you can say, 91ƵI can91Ƶt attach it to anything.91Ƶ It91Ƶs just a feeling that you91Ƶre having in your body.91Ƶ

Whalen believes menopause is seldom discussed openly because there are 91Ƶsocial and financial penalties91Ƶ for saying you91Ƶre experiencing it, whether in the dating world or the workplace.

91ƵIt91Ƶs a marker that you91Ƶve gotten to a certain age and we live in a very ageist society. There91Ƶs so much to lose and not a lot to gain (by talking about it),91Ƶ she said.

91ƵI also think there91Ƶs a larger thing where it really feels like your value as a human ends when you are no longer fertile.91Ƶ

But the pair hope their comedy can highlight the positive aspects of this stage in life, from the end of menstrual cycles to greater self-confidence.

In one scene, Julie taps into her menopausal fury like it91Ƶs a superpower, delivering a raw, unfiltered blast of honesty to her boss.

91ƵWhen you reach middle age, you get to a point where you just don91Ƶt give a crap anymore, and in the best possible way,91Ƶ said Whalen.

91ƵYou91Ƶre like, 91ƵI don91Ƶt line up to go to clubs anymore.91Ƶ There are certain things where you91Ƶre just like, 91ƵNope, nope, nope.91Ƶ And you have a great sense of yourself, which allows you to be able to say what you think.91Ƶ

91ƵThere91Ƶs so much joy and power and fun that comes with getting older as a woman,91Ƶ added MacNeill.

91ƵThe only reason it feels hard is because the male gaze says that it is. But being out from under the gaze is so freeing.91Ƶ





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