It91Ƶs a weekday afternoon and Anna Sorokin is on house arrest in a New York apartment building that has been condemned as imminently perilous to life. So she91Ƶs attempting to capture outside attention and relieving her boredom in the most quotidian way: starting a podcast.
91ƵSo many people became famous for bad things and were able to kind of segue it into something different,91Ƶ she recently told The Associated Press in her East Village apartment.
91ƵThe main theme of my podcast is productive rule-breaking,91Ƶ she said of 91ƵThe Anna Delvey Show.91Ƶ
For now, she wants to reimagine her public image to shake her reputation of being a con artist and a scammer.
91ƵI91Ƶm on 24/7 house arrest. I91Ƶm only allowed to leave for my parole check-ins, my ICE check-ins and for medical emergencies,91Ƶ she said. Behind her is a life-size cutout of her likeness 91Ƶ created by artist Kenny Schachter 91Ƶ which, like Sorokin herself, is wearing an ankle monitoring device.
Going by the name Anna Delvey, she posed as a German heiress and lied about having a $67 million trust fund in order to apply for loans, run up debts and secure a historic building for a private arts club. She falsely claimed to be the daughter of a diplomat or an oil baron. Arrested in late 2017, she was convicted in 2019 on multiple counts of larceny and theft for bilking banks, hotels and wealthy New Yorkers out of $275,000.
She was sentenced to four to 12 years in prison. After serving three years in prison though 91Ƶ about half of which was at Rikers Island jail complex 91Ƶ Sorokin, a German citizen, was detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Later, she was released after posting a $10,000 bond in the fall to home confinement, pending a deportation hearing.
Now she91Ƶs taking advantage of her time at home by launching a weekly podcast series that she hopes will tell her side of the story, featuring various expert and celebrity guests. Sorokin91Ƶs conversations with Julia Fox, 91ƵPharma Bro91Ƶ Martin Shkreli and Ottessa Moshfegh will be on upcoming episodes, according to Reunion Audio, the podcast company, who have also said she is interviewing Emily Ratajkowski though her team has not confirmed that.
Sorokin91Ƶs fraud case became the basis for the Emmy-nominated Netflix series 91ƵInventing Anna,91Ƶ based on a New York magazine story. Sorokin, played by three-time Emmy winner Julia Garner, said she was a consultant on the show, but didn91Ƶt have 91Ƶany control91Ƶ over the final product.
91ƵFor me to say I91Ƶm rehabilitated would be to admit something was wrong with me to begin with. Like, I was just young. I made some mistakes,91Ƶ she said. 91ƵI91Ƶm trying to learn from them. My case, my criminal case is on direct appeal.91Ƶ
91ƵInventing Anna91Ƶ was inspired by real-life events, but every episode included a disclaimer that the story was true except for the parts that were made up.
91ƵI know some of the stuff like definitely did not happen,91Ƶ Sorokin said. 91ƵBut it91Ƶs not really up to me to sit here and go over the series piece-by-piece, because it91Ƶs literally a Shonda Rhimes interpretation.91Ƶ
While Sorokin was jailed, her fanbase grew 91Ƶ even organizing a 91ƵFree Anna Delvey91Ƶ art show that included some of her drawings, as well as works by other artists. Since then, she has attempted to sell pencil drawings for up to $25,000.
The podcast gives her the opportunity to take back some control over the narrative, and it91Ƶs something she91Ƶs thought about doing for some time.
91ƵI wanted to start recording in jail, actually over the jail phone because, you know, there are some rappers who record whole albums while being incarcerated. I was like, `Why not record a podcast?91Ƶ91Ƶ Sorokin said.
She was never able to do it, because it was 91Ƶlogistically difficult91Ƶ to record episodes, according to the podcast company.
As far as her time behind bars, Sorokin called prison a 91Ƶtransformative experience,91Ƶ saying that she91Ƶs no longer the person who was arrested in 2017.
91ƵIt91Ƶs been five years, a bit more than five years since I got arrested. So, I just like 91Ƶ I changed. I learned so much,91Ƶ she said. Dressed in a white blouse, her signature black-ribbon tie and dark slacks, her ankle bracelet is clearly visible.
She lifts her pants leg to show it off and even explains how it works.
91ƵSometimes you see the banks all operate the biggest fraud on a huge scale, but like if you bounce, I don91Ƶt know, a $500 check, then (it91Ƶs) fraud,91Ƶ Sorokin said.
This week, Sorokin91Ƶs guest on 91ƵThe Anna Delvey Show91Ƶ was model and rocker Julia Cumming of the New York City band, Sunflower Bean.
During a discussion about what makes a real New Yorker, Cumming says Sorokin91Ƶs impact in the city qualifies her.
91ƵYou are the first person I91Ƶve ever hung out with under house arrest,91Ƶ she said. 91ƵSo that91Ƶs a huge accomplishment.91Ƶ
Sorokin agreed that she didn91Ƶt know anyone under house arrest either.
Cumming responded: 91ƵIt91Ƶs like you and Lindsay Lohan,91Ƶ who was under house arrest in Los Angeles more than a decade ago.
Sorokin believes her notoriety makes it91Ƶs easy for her to bring guests on the show.
91ƵI can get pretty much anybody up here,91Ƶ she said with brash confidence.
But there91Ƶs one guest she won91Ƶt be able to get: Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes, who just began an 11-year prison sentence for overseeing a blood-testing hoax that became a parable about greed and hubris in Silicon Valley.
91ƵI91Ƶd love to speak to Elizabeth. I definitely think she91Ƶs an interesting person,91Ƶ Sorokin said. 91ƵI can relate a little bit more is because we91Ƶre both females and have been trying to build something.91Ƶ
She would also consider having U.S. Rep. George Santos on the podcast, but doesn91Ƶt feel she has much in common with him. The New York Republican who fabricated an identity as a rich, Wall Street dealmaker while running for Congress, and was recently charged in a 13-count indictment that included fraud, money laundering, and theft of public funds.
91ƵI91Ƶm sure some of it is true, some of it 91Ƶ it91Ƶs not,91Ƶ Sorokin said of things written about Santos.
She added: 91ƵI get so many requests to give George Santos advice, jail advice or something. I kind of stayed away from that.91Ƶ
So, for now, the subject of the 91ƵInventing Anna91Ƶ series waits to find out if people tune into the podcast, available this week on all major platforms 91Ƶ and if her campaign to reinvent herself works.
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AP journalist Anna Furman contributed reporting from Los Angeles.
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