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Trudeau targeted in English leaders91Ƶ debate

Debate dissolved into mudslinging and crosstalk
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Green Party leader Elizabeth May, left, and People91Ƶs Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier, third from right, exchange ideas as Liberal leader Justin Trudeau, Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, Bloc Quebecois leader Yves-Francois Blanchet and NDP leader Jagmeet Singh look on during the Federal leaders debate in Gatineau, Que. on Monday, October 7, 2019. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Justin Tang

The only English-language debate to feature all six federal party leaders devolved Monday into crosstalk and mudslinging as the leaders tried to break the impasse in voting intentions that has persisted through three weeks of campaigning.

As the incumbent prime minister, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau inevitably bore the brunt of the attacks, with the sharpest coming from Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, who called him 91Ƶa phoney and a fraud.91Ƶ

But the format of the debate and the sheer number of leaders on stage made substantive debate on policies difficult and, as they talked over one another, often impossible to hear.

As Trudeau and Scheer, battled it out for first place in the minds of voters, other party leaders tried to position themselves as alternatives to the warring front-runners.

After a set-to between Trudeau and Scheer over who has the better climate-change policy, the NDP91Ƶs Jagmeet Singh told viewers they don91Ƶt have to choose between 91ƵMr. Delay and Mr. Deny.91Ƶ

Elizabeth May, whose Green party is fighting with the NDP for third place, framed the choice differently.

91ƵAt this point, Mr. Scheer, with all due respect, you91Ƶre not going to be prime minister,91Ƶ she said bluntly at one point. She predicted that Trudeau91Ƶs Liberals will win at least a minority government so 91Ƶvoting for Green MPs is your very best guarantee, Canada, that you don91Ƶt get the government you least want.91Ƶ

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Regardless of the question, Singh took every opportunity to repeat his favourite theme: that Liberals and Conservatives alike pander to wealthy corporations whereas the NDP will fight for ordinary Canadians with investments in child care, pharmacare and dental care.

In a debate that very often featured after-the-bell jabs right before the tumbling roster of moderators moved on to new topics, Singh cracked the most jokes.

More than once, someone called him 91ƵMr. Scheer91Ƶ by mistake; after the second time, Singh said he91Ƶd even worn a bright orange turban so they91Ƶd be easy to tell apart. Scheer joked back that his own slight height advantage should have done the trick.

But in the main, like the other leaders, Singh was deadly serious about his targets.

91ƵMr. Trudeau does not have the courage to take on the insurance and the pharmaceutical lobbyists who don91Ƶt want this to happen,91Ƶ Singh said. 91ƵYou vote New Democrats, we91Ƶre going to make sure we91Ƶre going to make these things happen because we don91Ƶt work for the powerful and wealthy 91Ƶ We work for you.91Ƶ

Trudeau attempted to remind voters of his government91Ƶs record: lifting 900,000 Canadians out of poverty, creating almost one million jobs, robust economic growth, cutting taxes for the middle-class. And he argued that the Liberals have done more to tackle climate change than any Canadian government in history.

Trudeau also cast himself as a champion of diversity, inclusion and human rights, pointing out that he91Ƶs the only federal leader to leave the door open to intervening in a court challenge to Quebec91Ƶs secularism law, which forbids certain public servants, including teachers and police, from wearing religious symbols.

But right from his opening remarks, Scheer went after Trudeau on everything from the SNC-Lavalin affair to his recent apology for appearing in blackface several times in the distant past.

91ƵJustin Trudeau only pretends to stand up for Canada,91Ƶ Scheer said. 91ƵYou know, he91Ƶs very good at pretending things. He can91Ƶt even remember how many times he put blackface on because the fact of the matter is he91Ƶs always wearing a mask.91Ƶ

Scheer accused Trudeau of wearing masks on Indigenous reconciliation, feminism and on his concern for middle-class Canadians.

91ƵMr. Trudeau, you91Ƶre a phoney and you91Ƶre a fraud and you do not deserve to govern this country.91Ƶ

The format of the debate gave Trudeau no immediate opportunity to respond to Scheer91Ƶs attack, but he repeatedly went after Scheer at other times for his personal anti-abortion views and for promoting tax cuts for the rich.

Scheer rounded on Trudeau again later, raising the SNC-Lavalin affair. He accused Trudeau of breaking ethics law, shutting down parliamentary inquiries and firing two senior female cabinet ministers who objected to his trying to pressure his former attorney general to halt a criminal prosecution of the Montreal engineering giant.

91ƵTell me, when did you decide that the rules don91Ƶt apply to you?91Ƶ he said.

91ƵMr. Scheer, the role of a prime minister is stand up for Canadians91Ƶ jobs, to stand up for the public interest and that91Ƶs what I91Ƶve done,91Ƶ Trudeau responded.

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Trudeau got back-up of a sort from Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet, who accused Scheer of being willing to sacrifice thousands of SNC-Lavalin employees and of playing the old card that Quebecers are 91Ƶcorrupt.91Ƶ

Trudeau then veered onto one of his favourite themes, accusing Scheer of giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Canadians and conducting himself just like Ontario Premier Doug Ford. He also noted that Scheer hasn91Ƶt yet released a fully costed platform, which he called 91Ƶa disrespect for every Canadian.91Ƶ

91ƵYou91Ƶre choosing, just like Doug Ford did, to hide your platform from Canadians and deliver cuts to services and cut taxes for the wealthiest. That91Ƶs not the way to grow the economy.91Ƶ

As for Maxime Bernier, Scheer91Ƶs one-time leadership rival who quit the Conservatives to form the People91Ƶs Party of Canada, Trudeau said his job on the debate stage was to say the things Scheer believes privately.

Bernier fought back against accusations that his party is extreme right and anti-immigration, arguing that it91Ƶs not radical to want to cut Canada91Ƶs annual immigration intake by half. He repeatedly referred to the NDP and Green parties as 91Ƶsocialist.91Ƶ

Earlier Monday, the shadow of Ford loomed large over the pre-debate campaign trail as the Liberals kept lumping the Ontario premier together with Scheer, while the Conservatives did their best to pry the two apart.

Front-runners Scheer and Trudeau 91Ƶ deadlocked in the polls, by most accounts 91Ƶ made brief appearances in Ottawa before joining their four other foes in preparing for the debate. Trudeau met a group of Ontario teachers in a bid to highlight ongoing tensions between the province91Ƶs education workers and the Ford government 91Ƶ tensions that eased ever so slightly the night before when a last-minute agreement saved parents across the province from a potentially disruptive strike.

Ford91Ƶs cuts to services such as education have made him unpopular with voters and a drag on federal Conservative fortunes, observers say. Indeed, the premier91Ƶs absence from the Scheer campaign became all the more glaring over the weekend when Alberta Premier Jason Kenney glided in to pitch for Scheer in Toronto, including in Ford91Ƶs home turf of Etobicoke.

Trudeau has been trying to take advantage, linking Ford to Scheer every chance he can. The premier will oppose and interfere with Liberal efforts to reduce child poverty and increase federal child benefits, Trudeau said, warning Scheer would only make matters worse.

91ƵRight now we91Ƶre in an election where the option is to double down on Conservative approaches, which always cut services, looks for austerity and gives tax breaks to the wealthiest instead of to everyone else,91Ƶ he said.

Scheer, who91Ƶd much rather not talk about Ford, called Trudeau91Ƶs photo op with teachers a 91Ƶdisgusting91Ƶ attempt to politicize education. (In the debate later, he suggested Trudeau seek the vacant leadership of the Ontario Liberal party, since he91Ƶs so interested in provincial issues.)

Meanwhile, Scheer91Ƶs party carefully tried to set itself apart from Ford on at least one issue that has been particularly troublesome for the Ontario leader: autism.

Alberta Conservative Mike Lake issued a written statement saying the Conservatives would establish a national autism strategy with $50 million in funding over five years. Scheer, in Ottawa to promise free admission to Canada91Ƶs national museums, breathed nary a word about it.

Lake, whose son Jaden was diagnosed with autism when he was two years old, is a well-known global advocate for autism awareness and treatment.

The Conservatives appeared all day to be leading up the debate with a plan to go after the Liberals for an allegedly secret plan to tax profits on home sales made within one, two or three years of purchasing. A new website and multiple tweets to that effect were met by the Liberals with a press conference where Liberal Steven MacKinnon reiterated that Trudeau had kiboshed the proposal, which was mentioned in a 2018 report to Ontario caucus as an idea that had come up in townhall meetings. The Conservatives responded saying MacKinnon had 91Ƶconfirmed91Ƶ the plan, even though he had said the opposite.

May has been doing her best to parry an NDP narrative that her candidates are opposed to abortion, but that got a little harder Monday with word that Marthe Lepine had been 91Ƶremoved91Ƶ as the Green candidate in an eastern Ontario riding for 91Ƶviews about abortion that did not align with (Green party) policy.91Ƶ

The six leaders will face off again Thursday in the official French-language debate.

91Ƶ With files from Lee Berthiaume

Joan Bryden and Mia Rabson, The Canadian Press


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